Tuesday, April 1, 2008. 4:38 pm. Posted by Josh.
This appears to be a hot topic (at least for my little blog). I guess I'm not the only person out there who realized there was more to an ESPP than meets the eye.
Monday, April 14, 2008. 5:05 pm. Posted by Josh.
Alright! My first post to go over 500 views!
Hope people are finding it interesting!
I will be curious to see what happens after tomorrow (Tax deadline). Will the view drop significantly?
Thursday, April 24, 2008. 11:46 am. Posted by Josh.
Looks like I was right. Interest in this post has dropped off quite a bit since the tax deadline. Now I will be interested to see if it picks up again next tax year.
Saturday, April 26, 2008. 6:25 pm. Posted by Taxed.
Hi Josh,
Thank you very much for your article on calculating ESPP taxes. Your spreadsheets are wonderful! Thank you for sharing them.
Monday, April 28, 2008. 2:24 pm. Posted by Josh.
My pleasure. My goal of writing the article was to give people the benefit of the research I had already done on the topic. Glad you were able find it useful.
Sunday, May 4, 2008. 1:06 pm. Posted by David.
How about commissions/fees? Shouldn't these be subtracted from the sale total?
Thanks.
Monday, May 5, 2008. 11:54 am. Posted by Josh.
Yes, you're correct. Your proceeds from the sale would be your sales dollars - commissions/fees - purchase cost. I think most brokerages supply you with proceed numbers that already have the commissions subtracted. I know TDAmeritrade and Fidelity do.
Thursday, October 2, 2008. 4:23 pm. Posted by PlayHard-PlayFair-HaveFun.
Very well written. I've been meaning to read this, and just got around to doing so today. I hope you didn't explain it so well that people report correctly and reduces another revenue source for IRS (and State) tax auditors. ;}
Tuesday, October 7, 2008. 2:01 pm. Posted by Josh.
That might be, but the way I understand it, the IRS has plenty of money. In fact, I got a call from a "government worker" the other day saying I was going to get $5000 just for paying my taxes on time! Yeah right. To read about this phone scam, see my post:
Phone Scam Claims Government Wants To Give You $5,000 For Paying Taxes On Time
Sunday, February 15, 2009. 2:46 am. Posted by guitarmom.
Thanks for your well-written explanation of tax calculations for ESPP sales. This explains things very well when you sell your stock for a profit. But what happens when you sell ESPP stock at a loss?
Is the loss a Capital Loss or a reduction of Ordinary Income, or some hybrid of the two? (Our sale is a qualifying sale.)
Monday, February 16, 2009. 2:37 pm. Posted by Josh.
guitarmom -
I believe the correct answer is to treat it all as a capital loss and not report any ordinary income.
From IRS Publication 525:
Any excess gain is capital gain. If you have a loss from the sale, it is a capital loss, and you do not have any ordinary income.
Also see the reply in this forum:
http://fairmark.com/forum/read.php?3,182
I am not a tax professional, so this information should not be taken as tax advice. I'm simply stating how I have handled the situation.
Sunday, April 12, 2009. 7:57 pm. Posted by uncle sam's servant.
your explanations confirmed my understanding of handling espp sales. thanks! what i find annoying is one can't really tell if the company includes the discounted amount in box 1 of the w-2 (my box 14 lists a totally different thing casdi amount). an indication that amount has been reported in w-2 is the difference between box 1 and box 3, but i guess a call to payroll definitely gives the right answer.
Tuesday, April 14, 2009. 3:31 am. Posted by DM.
Thanks for this informative post, I keep relearning this stuff every tax season, good to find it all in one place.
Wednesday, April 15, 2009. 11:56 pm. Posted by Mack.
Josh,
Very good summary - succinct and clear. It helped with my 2008 taxes and made me realize that I overpaid in prior years.
thanks,
Mack
Tuesday, April 28, 2009. 11:04 am. Posted by Josh.
Mack -
If you over paid in previous years, you may want to consider re-filing for those years. I re-filed 3 years and ended up getting about $1000 back. Well worth the few hours it took to do the paperwork.
Josh
Saturday, May 16, 2009. 2:10 pm. Posted by Scott.
I have the irs trying to add the entire amount of employee stock that I sold in 2007, but I have already paid taxes on this money because it is an after tax deduction. My total capital gain was only $385. Does the irs have the right to add all of my $2900 on to my tax return or just the gain?
Tuesday, December 29, 2009. 3:47 am. Posted by yazehu.
Josh,
First off, great post! I've been trying to learn about this topic for some time and you managed to boil it down very nicely!
One quick question, in the section on Qualified Distribution, you refer to Market Price on Offer Date which you explain as being "the market price per share on the beginning of the offer date". Can you clarify this further? Given that ESPP purchases are made bi-annually (at least in the program that I'm enrolled in), are you referring to the price at the beginning of the 6 month period? Or something else?
